tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post2569250762321827611..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Edward of Caernarfon's Family in 1284Kathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-87777089140238295982013-06-16T15:43:07.280+01:002013-06-16T15:43:07.280+01:00They're still around and can be a real mine of...They're still around and can be a real mine of information, though gen.medieval is often full of silly bickering, which can be very off-putting and is a big reason why I never post there.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-91301225315764351752013-06-16T15:39:37.987+01:002013-06-16T15:39:37.987+01:00And you have incidentally alerted me to the fact t...And you have incidentally alerted me to the fact that these news groups are still around. I used to use them 20 years ago in the early days of the internet but I assumed that they had withered with the coming of blogging and other forms of social media.Bryan Dunleavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550652628913169630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-19775284667927263802013-06-16T12:47:43.825+01:002013-06-16T12:47:43.825+01:00Thanks, Bryan! John Carmi Parsons' research i...Thanks, Bryan! John Carmi Parsons' research into Eleanor of Castile and her children is superb - the posts I linked to above are based on his scholarly article published in Mediaeval Studies in 1984. There are still people who claim in print that Edward II's sister Margaret, duchess of Brabant, died in 1318, which is an error made by Agnes Strickland in the 19th century and STILL repeated today, even though Margaret was clearly alive in 1333 when she was in correspondence with her nephew Edward III (and Edward II wrote to her a few times in the 1320s). This is yet another example of the endless confusion surrounding Edward II's siblings.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-51652907705044784232013-06-16T12:39:57.478+01:002013-06-16T12:39:57.478+01:00Once again Kathryn your nuggets of truth rise abov...Once again Kathryn your nuggets of truth rise above the prevailing mist of casual assertions by less careful researchers. I had assumed until now (silly me) that the genealogical tables published by Alison Weir might represent something that even she couldn't get wrong. The references to the obscure posts by John C Parsons are very useful.Bryan Dunleavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550652628913169630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-20638417831006429912013-06-15T12:38:22.137+01:002013-06-15T12:38:22.137+01:00Accurate birthdates were not always recorded of ev...Accurate birthdates were not always recorded of even female Royals/daughters,(especially if there were more than a few of them?) so it is not always easy to decide medieval female precedence (or exact parentage) of women. And there was high infant/toddler death rate, which might/not have recorded in surviving documents.<br /><br />Judith<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-24769385469979688882013-06-14T07:52:22.581+01:002013-06-14T07:52:22.581+01:00Thanks, Sami! :)
Sonetka, that's a good story...Thanks, Sami! :)<br /><br />Sonetka, that's a good story! :) There are a couple of great posts by Eleanor of Castile's biographer John Carmi Parsons, listing her children and the ones who did not exist:<br /><br />https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/omPOn9xMJuA<br /><br />https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/mJSZPdZhgV8Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-18072735103027565192013-06-14T07:44:25.673+01:002013-06-14T07:44:25.673+01:00Alas for the possible King Alfonso -- that would h...Alas for the possible King Alfonso -- that would have been even more impressive than a real King Arthur (Tudor). I'm also curious about the origin of the imaginary younger sisters -- seeing the extra children who get tacked on to a lot of royal family trees, I'm always reminded of that cartoon showing a medieval cartographer telling another "Why don't you throw in a few islands over there, just for laughs?" It's like genealogists got bored and decided to dress the old information up a little. Sonetkahttp://anneboleynnovels.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-69248917771701749172013-06-13T00:25:33.255+01:002013-06-13T00:25:33.255+01:00as usual, informative!as usual, informative!Sami Parkkonennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-454308305258952032013-06-12T20:40:52.781+01:002013-06-12T20:40:52.781+01:00There's just endless confusion about Edward I ...There's just endless confusion about Edward I and Eleanor of Castile's children, Anerje, children added whom they never had, children they did have ignored, or their dates of birth and death and even their names wrong...!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-18616660162093297682013-06-12T20:38:54.624+01:002013-06-12T20:38:54.624+01:00Amazing to think Edward II was the youngest child ...Amazing to think Edward II was the youngest child of Edward Ist - and his mother 42! I wonder why 2 younger sisters were 'invented'? Were they confused with any of his cousins?Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-21467399514290435692013-06-12T17:49:32.078+01:002013-06-12T17:49:32.078+01:00Thanks so much, Kasia, I really appreciate it! Fo...Thanks so much, Kasia, I really appreciate it! For some reason I can't access FB at the moment, but hope to be back soon ;-)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-47264684121372160842013-06-12T17:48:36.970+01:002013-06-12T17:48:36.970+01:00Kathryn, using my new weapon (read Facebook) I'...Kathryn, using my new weapon (read Facebook) I've posted a link to your latest article on Sharon Fan Club page. I hope you don't mind????Katarzyna Ogrodnik-Fujcikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415905019122111675noreply@blogger.com