tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post4059385594664713900..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Royal and Noble Men, of the Non-English Variety (part one)Kathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-5788227715194379252014-01-04T16:47:29.396+00:002014-01-04T16:47:29.396+00:00Thank you again for demystifying genealogy, Kathry...Thank you again for demystifying genealogy, Kathryn! I'm also happy to know, at last, over what part of the world, precisely, a "King of the Romans" ruled! I would never have guessed Germany.<br /><br />Harsh words about the Duchess from Gabrielle! (Looking back, who could see how drastically THAT situation would change?) I'm shocked because I thought Kate was as popular as Princess Diana! In fact, whenever I see photos of that beautiful young woman in her cute little hats, I think Prince William wanted, in the words of the old song, <br /><br />"to marry a gal,<br />just like the gal,<br />who married dear old dad!"<br /><br />But since the accident that killed his mother, I've been out of touch with the activities of the royal family and public opinion concerning them. The memory of Princess Diana's death is too painful.<br /><br />But that brings to mind--yes, here it comes--a question: I've read that Princess Diana was a direct descendent of "our own" le Despensers, and that her family even uses their coat of arms. Is that true? If so, how wild! The lineage of the future King can be traced back to both Edward and Hugh.<br /><br />A wonderful post, Kathryn!MRatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-20090842015608033542007-04-15T21:07:00.000+01:002007-04-15T21:07:00.000+01:00Lol, you can be glad the House Plantagenet died ou...Lol, you can be glad the House Plantagenet died out or Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace would be on the list of aims for the ETA today. :)<BR/><BR/>Hm, since Prince William separated from Kate (and good luck for him to have gotten rid of that ambitious girl), is there any unmarried lass connected to the Spanish royal family of suitable age for him? *grin* Nay, that's a connection that won't work today, the one family stoutly Protestant and the other stoutly Catholic. Though religion should not play a role these days.Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-46558913521034709312007-04-15T15:52:00.000+01:002007-04-15T15:52:00.000+01:00Thanks for the kind comments!Carla: I'm sure I'd h...Thanks for the kind comments!<BR/><BR/>Carla: I'm sure I'd have been much more interested in history at school if we'd learnt all these family connections and intriguing details about people! :)<BR/><BR/>Liam: another example would be William the Conqueror's half-brother Odo, who became Bishop of Bayeux at a very young age - probably about 13 or 14, though some historians think he might have been as old as 18 or 19 (le gasp! :) Interesting that there's around seven centuries or more between Odo and your example of George III's son, so it was a very long-lasting tradition.<BR/><BR/>You've picked up on the part of the post that really intrigues me (Great minds and all that! :) Both Eleanors had married and moved to England/Gascony at the same age that young Eleanor was in 1282, which suggests to me that they thought they'd been too young and were keen to spare their (grand)daughter the same fate. Interesting also that Edward I took their advice and didn't send his daughter to Spain, though political considerations re: Aragon/Sicily/the Papacy etc might have played a role too.<BR/><BR/>Eleanor of Castile also raised objections to her daughter Mary becoming a nun, though she was overruled on that occasion.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-12290484519208300782007-04-15T15:14:00.000+01:002007-04-15T15:14:00.000+01:00Wonderful post! Incidentally, the tradition of giv...Wonderful post! Incidentally, the tradition of giving high church posts to very young men went on for centuries - I think George III's second son Frederick was made Bishop of Osnabruck at a very young age!<BR/><BR/>Also interesting that Eleanor of Castile and Eleanor of Provence stopped Edward I from sending his daughter to Aragon - bit of an unusual show of concern for a medieval mother and grandmother, wasn't it?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188874002836550379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-14541775419683123062007-04-15T12:35:00.000+01:002007-04-15T12:35:00.000+01:00Congratulations for the pat on the back! It's ver...Congratulations for the pat on the back! It's very well deserved.<BR/><BR/>It's amazing how interconnected all the royal families are, isn't it? Even a Spanish-Norwegian marriage, linking one end of Europe to the other. This international dimension seems to get neglected in the history I remember from school, which is a shame because it's fascinating.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.com