tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post4982924285611761224..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Edward II And GermanyKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-12848977522894532802016-09-13T18:21:03.538+01:002016-09-13T18:21:03.538+01:00This is an interesting article and though I may no...This is an interesting article and though I may not check this blog every day I do like to read it periodically.<br /><br />I must confess I haven't got round to reading your earlier books, Katherine, though they are on my "list". My understanding is that Lambert Simnel did eventually escape the kitchens and became a falconer.<br /><br />Of course as a lay person (i.e. not a trained historian) it's difficult for me to make up my mind but I would like to think that Edward II escaped rather than suffering murder in a very horrible way at Kenilworth.<br /><br />Incidentally, I'm not anonymous - I'm Patricia OAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-51344268139183755822016-09-12T17:14:12.660+01:002016-09-12T17:14:12.660+01:00Great post! However, would a pretender who didn&#...Great post! However, would a pretender who didn't challenge the current monarch's right to the throne be treated differently than a pretender that did? Both Simnel and Warbeck led rebellions against the Tudors -- and John of Powderham claimed that Edward II had no right to the throne because he was a changeling. OTOH, there are stories of a Richard of Eastwell who claimed to be Richard III's bastard son -- but worked as a bricklayer and so, survived the Tudors. Also, if William the Welshman really was Edward II, why couldn't they just say that he was the king's father? Edward III ruled by right of his father's "abdication" -- which he could ratify -- not as a result of his father's death.<br /><br />EstherAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111701397863171191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-49414910175189611192016-09-10T15:48:48.071+01:002016-09-10T15:48:48.071+01:00It's surely too coincidental that Edward II is...It's surely too coincidental that Edward II is associated with the same German city - Cologne. If Edward III did meet his father here, it suggests that Edward II was familiar with Cologne and was comfortable meeting his son there. It would have been an extraordinary meeting between father and son - if that is indeed what took place. And if not, Edward III seemed happy to let this pretended to walk away....? unlikely.Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-5463121368953188382016-09-10T15:23:17.684+01:002016-09-10T15:23:17.684+01:00Kathryn, all very interesting - I wouldn't kno...Kathryn, all very interesting - I wouldn't know where to start to try to make sense of this subject. However, I cannot believe that Edward III had 'Edward/William the Welshman' brought to him, entertained him for several weeks (I think) and then let him go unharmed if he wasn't genuine. A pretender surely would have been dealt with harshly, examples being in the reign of Henry VII Lambert Simnel (sent to work in the kitchens but a child) and more severely Perkin Warbeck (executed). Perhaps the Fieschi family had connections in Germany that Edward II vaguely knew or the Pope advised him who to meet - no doubt you will explore these options. I am really looking forward to this book. I've finished the second one, 'Isabella', and my humble opinion is that she has been labelled unfairly as 'She-wolf of France'; again, even if she was against reconciling with Edward it would go against her royal French upbringing to allow her anointed husband's murder. AmandaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com