tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post5721566466486301207..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Sisters of Edward II (1): EleanorKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-88567793652866444682022-07-13T04:12:13.226+01:002022-07-13T04:12:13.226+01:00Our welsh family tree has Ellinor da. to William E...Our welsh family tree has Ellinor da. to William Earle of Barre married to Llewelin ap Owen, lord of Iscoyd. The tree was written in 1774Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-18096792395628247772008-05-28T11:16:00.000+01:002008-05-28T11:16:00.000+01:00Alphonse de Vere might have been named after Princ...Alphonse de Vere might have been named after Prince Alfonso, but he might also have been one of Leonor's godchildren, and she could've selected the name. His name is given as "Aumphons de Veer" on a contemporary roll of arms [Brault, Rolls of Arms Edward I (1272-1307) 2 (1997): <BR/>456].Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-83421716356864303592008-05-27T19:05:00.000+01:002008-05-27T19:05:00.000+01:00*Grins**Grins*Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-86750470167104273352008-05-27T15:41:00.000+01:002008-05-27T15:41:00.000+01:00Isn't the Anglicised version of Alphonso just plai...Isn't the Anglicised version of Alphonso just plain Alf? King Alf has quite a ring to it I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-78051388884890874712008-05-24T14:04:00.000+01:002008-05-24T14:04:00.000+01:00Carla: I suppose Alphonse would be the English equ...Carla: I suppose Alphonse would be the English equivalent. The earl of Oxford had a son, around the same age as Ed II, called Alphonse de Vere. Maybe he was named in honour of Ed I's son. It was often spelt something like 'Auffon' or 'Auphoms' at the time.<BR/><BR/>Afraid I really don't know what the oil was used for - I like the idea of bath oil, though!<BR/><BR/>Thanks, Lady D. Ed I was lucky enough to grow up in a loving family - for all their faults, Henry III and Eleanor of Provence were devoted parents. Shame Ed I didn't recreate that for his own children.<BR/><BR/>Good point, Mipp, and you're right, it is a shame that most Anglo-Saxon names fell out of use.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-55062602099727370172008-05-23T19:57:00.000+01:002008-05-23T19:57:00.000+01:00if Edward II's elder brother had survived, Alfonso...if Edward II's elder brother had survived, Alfonso would likely have become a Grande Olde British Name, and it's certainly no stranger than Charles or William. Another of Edward and Leonor's children was named Berengaria, but she didn't live past her first year. <BR/><BR/>It's too bad the Anglo-Saxon names fell out of favor in the British royal family, aside from Edward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-15328824913592543192008-05-23T19:31:00.000+01:002008-05-23T19:31:00.000+01:00Lots of good infrmation here about a woman I didn'...Lots of good infrmation here about a woman I didn't really know about. It really helps me to join up some of the royal dots - especially with Joan of Bar.<BR/><BR/>I really feel for Edward I's kids - they musthave felt quite unloved and overlooked by their parents.Jules Frusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207281934232383811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-81659158107111886372008-05-23T19:03:00.000+01:002008-05-23T19:03:00.000+01:00If it had happened, maybe the name Alfonso would h...If it had happened, maybe the name Alfonso would have been Anglicised over the years - does it have an English equivalent?<BR/><BR/>I didn't know that primogenita/us meant eldest surviving! That must make it really difficult untangling records.<BR/><BR/>Could the violet and almond oil have been a perfume, or something like a modern bath oil, do you think?Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-73525008808523642862008-05-23T07:57:00.000+01:002008-05-23T07:57:00.000+01:00Thanks! Anerje: it's funny to think that if Alfon...Thanks! Anerje: it's funny to think that if Alfonso had become king of England, Alfonso would be a common English name!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-85721358246434657152008-05-22T18:33:00.000+01:002008-05-22T18:33:00.000+01:00Very informative post Alianore!Eleanor must have f...Very informative post Alianore!Eleanor must have felt like a baby-making machine. I think only Queen Anne had more children than her - 17. The Royal children must have had very little contact with their mother. It would be have been very strange for England to have a King Alfonso.Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-91935924603990050122008-05-21T16:53:00.000+01:002008-05-21T16:53:00.000+01:00Very informative! Looking forward to reading your...Very informative! Looking forward to reading your posts on Joan and Elizabeth in particular. I remember Mary of course from reading Susan's book, but I can't remember anything about Margaret (if I ever knew anything in the first place), so will be interesting to read too.Carolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03573732617118300609noreply@blogger.com