tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post620484495623710234..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Titles, Forms of Address, Names, Letters...Kathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-20530969842955687082017-06-20T04:28:20.772+01:002017-06-20T04:28:20.772+01:00Well my question is what would a earls children be...Well my question is what would a earls children be called? Nothing? Just "Ravlyn de Warenne"? Would servants such as their nurses just call them by name? Coreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468600534319907658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-80229832754035031622009-11-17T22:59:50.502+00:002009-11-17T22:59:50.502+00:00If you have original sources showing that Isabel M...If you have original sources showing that Isabel MacDuff was actually released from her captivity in the cage at Berwick-on-Tweed would you be kind enough to post what it is.<br /><br />I've seen people SAY she was released but never found a single original source that authoritatively PROVED it. I suspect that there is no evidence that she was. Considering the conditions under which she was imprisoned, her dying under those conditions seems highly believable. But if there is evidence otherwise, I would like to know about it. <br />ThanksJ. R. Tomlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109874615059334200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-82181931431528206242007-06-19T17:10:00.000+01:002007-06-19T17:10:00.000+01:00Thank you, fellow cricket fan! :) Yes, I wonder if...Thank you, fellow cricket fan! :) Yes, I wonder if some novelists use 'your majesty' and 'princess' etc because they think they sound more impressive, or that readers will expect them...<BR/><BR/>My favourite <I>Edward II</I> quote is (from memory) "But what are kings, when regiment is gone/But perfect shadows in a sunshine day?" If you want to find more Marlowe quotes to use on your kids - which is a brilliant idea! - you can find the full text of <I>Edward II</I> at http://www.classic-literature.co.uk/british-authors/16th-century/christopher-marlowe/edward-ii/Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-29794428244895647162007-06-19T13:55:00.000+01:002007-06-19T13:55:00.000+01:00Congratulations on your century (fellow cricket fa...Congratulations on your century (fellow cricket fan!)<BR/><BR/>I am going to use "a night-grown mushrump" the next time my 11 year old son gives me any lip. That should stop him in his tracks. Thanks Marlowe and thanks Alianore for letting us know of such a great quote.<BR/><BR/>It was a great post of very interesting information. Perhaps those authors who incorrectly title their characters have been misguided by historians. There is a true saying.. history doesn't repeat itself but historians repeat each other... or something like that. Whilst not exactly correct to title characters "your majesty" etc. It sounds more "dramatic" don't you think?<BR/><BR/>Cheers to you for the next 100 blog posts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-31062240046031644872007-06-16T20:04:00.000+01:002007-06-16T20:04:00.000+01:00Thank you, Daphne!Hope I won't ruin your enjoyment...Thank you, Daphne!<BR/><BR/>Hope I won't ruin your enjoyment of historical fiction too much...;)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-88905872139167656352007-06-16T18:27:00.000+01:002007-06-16T18:27:00.000+01:00Congratulations on your 100th post!! As always, f...Congratulations on your 100th post!! As always, full of very interesting information. Now that I know all this, I will probably notice inappropriate uses of titles more!Daphnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12838072651419264066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-20916587582614293362007-06-15T18:14:00.000+01:002007-06-15T18:14:00.000+01:00I'm not sure if publishers would consider that fin...I'm not sure if publishers would consider that financially feasible, Gabriele, but I think it's a great idea. Anyone who's looking for a historical editor, I will happily volunteer my services ;)<BR/><BR/>There was a really gross historical error in <I>Queen of Shadows</I> (in addition to all the other errors): the author stated that Ed II's niece Elizabeth de Clare founded the Poor Clare religious order, when it fact it was St Clare of Assisi, nearly a century before Elizabeth was even born. That one nearly made me choke on my coffee. I'm sure editors do sterling work, and of course they can't be expected to pick up all or even most of the historical mistakes, but it's a shame that a book was published with such a huge - and very silly - error.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-38534600171394833082007-06-15T18:01:00.000+01:002007-06-15T18:01:00.000+01:00Another one who is bothered by the wrong addresses...Another one who is bothered by the wrong addresses. <BR/><BR/>I don't think most editors know about history, they're there to improve the <I>writing</I> - maybe it's asking too much to have them also check for historical blunders. <BR/><BR/>Historical fiction could do with a second editor for that. :)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-42446664060880105182007-06-15T17:33:00.000+01:002007-06-15T17:33:00.000+01:00Thanks, both! Got a bit carried away with myself,...Thanks, both! Got a bit carried away with myself, there - it might have been better as several separate posts! :)<BR/><BR/>Liam: 'dread lord' or 'dread sovereign' is weird, isn't it??<BR/><BR/>Stephanie: no, you're definitely not alone! It's interesting - there's a newish review of Edith Felber's <I>Queen of Shadows</I> (one of the novels that inspired the post) on Amazon that makes the same points. I also wonder if sometimes novelists think that 'your majesty' and 'princess' just sound 'better' somehow than 'your grace' and 'lady'??Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-12350783198647430372007-06-15T15:47:00.000+01:002007-06-15T15:47:00.000+01:00Thanks for the great post! I thought I was the onl...Thanks for the great post! I thought I was the only one driven crazy when authors use the wrong form address. How do some of these massive mistakes get by the editors?? Sometimes I think the author is just being lazy or worse is "talking down" to the audience by assuming the readers won't understand the older forms of address so they "simplify". Ugh!Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04549433838794370673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-17080033182685333522007-06-15T15:21:00.000+01:002007-06-15T15:21:00.000+01:00Great post, I like topics like this! ;) I've alway...Great post, I like topics like this! ;) I've always wondered what calling someone 'dread lord' was meant to signify. It doesn't sounds complimentary at all to me, more like evil!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188874002836550379noreply@blogger.com