tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post7753568207131792112..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: 17 June 1239: Birth of King Edward IKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-25084386537794078892013-06-19T12:56:34.131+01:002013-06-19T12:56:34.131+01:00Paris died in 1259, if I remember correctly, and w...Paris died in 1259, if I remember correctly, and was definitely contemporary - he knew Richard of Cornwall and Simon de Montfort personally. I seem to remember something similar was said about Philip II of France's queen (Isabelle of Hainault?) when she was about 14! Madness. Once Henry and Eleanor did begin marital relations, their children were born close together - only 15 months between Edward and Margaret, then 21 months to Beatrice, then two and a half years to Edmund. Maybe there was a political element to the 'barren' slur, yes.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-42566829892425963632013-06-19T12:52:32.152+01:002013-06-19T12:52:32.152+01:00"Matthew Paris, the great chronicler of thirt..."Matthew Paris, the great chronicler of thirteenth-century England, reports that Queen Eleanor had been feared to be barren ..."<br />It's interesting that Matthew Paris says that. He was broadly contemporary with events, wasn't he, not writing centuries later? So presumably he had some reason for saying it. Perhaps he was reporting some rumour that was current at the time. As you say, 2 years and 9 months doesn't seem a very long time, especially if the bride was very young. Could there have been an element of wishful thinking / scurrilous rumour from an enemy faction that Matthew Paris picked up on? Or perhaps some sort of rumour about ill-health?Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-72133687141839482052013-06-18T18:21:48.718+01:002013-06-18T18:21:48.718+01:00No problem at all! :) Thanks for reading the blog...No problem at all! :) Thanks for reading the blog and commenting - you're most welcome here!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-17800178734871342982013-06-18T17:19:35.386+01:002013-06-18T17:19:35.386+01:00Gah. Reading too fast, does it every time. Sorry a...Gah. Reading too fast, does it every time. Sorry about that!Sonetkahttp://anneboleynnovels.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-73877215341945555422013-06-18T07:05:10.686+01:002013-06-18T07:05:10.686+01:00Sonetka, the name issue is mentioned in the post ;...Sonetka, the name issue is mentioned in the post ;-) Henry III revered Edward the Confessor.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-10412822530295180462013-06-18T06:47:27.459+01:002013-06-18T06:47:27.459+01:00Kasia -- shades (or preview) of Thomas More writin...Kasia -- shades (or preview) of Thomas More writing his panegyrics on Henry VIII's coronation, isn't it? Still, happy birthday to Edward. Is there any indication of what made them choose such an old-fashioned name (at the time)? Hearkening back to Edward the Confessor, perhaps? Odd to think that if they'd decided to honour, say, King Canute, my family tree might be filled with Canutes instead of Edwards. Sonetkahttp://anneboleynnovels.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-55581908980360255892013-06-17T21:23:37.763+01:002013-06-17T21:23:37.763+01:00Now if only he had left the Scots alone. ;-)
But ...Now if only he had left the Scots alone. ;-)<br /><br />But I admit, he built some splendid castles and was certainly an interesting character. Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-39957618910969645682013-06-17T19:54:37.150+01:002013-06-17T19:54:37.150+01:00Calling Eleanor barren is ridiculous! Like Edward...Calling Eleanor barren is ridiculous! Like Edward II and King John, Henry III had a very young bride. Too much to think he was considerate, eh?:>Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-51442276754613548502013-06-17T10:46:54.570+01:002013-06-17T10:46:54.570+01:00Kasia, that's a very poignant thought, isn'...Kasia, that's a very poignant thought, isn't it? :/ I hadn't seen it from that perspective, but of course, you're absolutely right.<br /><br />Thank you, that's very kind of you! ;0Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-56879825552079276802013-06-17T09:39:20.320+01:002013-06-17T09:39:20.320+01:00It probably did not occur to Simon de Montfort tha...It probably did not occur to Simon de Montfort that this baby boy, whose christening he witnessed, would bring upon him his end at Evesham twenty-four years later. How very sad.<br /><br />P.S. I hope you don't mind Kathryn if I post a link to your blog on Sharon Fan Club Page?Katarzyna Ogrodnik-Fujcikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415905019122111675noreply@blogger.com