tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post9066423571548084417..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Edward II and Oxbridge (2)Kathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-19519718545635126712013-12-21T05:49:04.146+00:002013-12-21T05:49:04.146+00:00This is really fascinating, particularly the detai...This is really fascinating, particularly the detail about the scholarship boys going off to spend Christmas with the King at York. I wonder, would those have been young men from less privileged backgrounds, hence the scholarships?<br /><br />Ivan.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05663800148464825570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-41205675384269638332013-12-16T17:46:16.238+00:002013-12-16T17:46:16.238+00:00It seems to me that some people think:
"Well...It seems to me that some people think: <br />"Well, Edward could not be seriously studious since he was... Gay! <br />Well, he was married and had children with women so he was not entirely GAY but pervert...<br />And he also swam and was athletic, a gay jock that is, so he could not have been intellectual... " Or something like that I guess.<br /><br />This is a nice fact for its part it also makes the old image of Edward II crumble from this corner too. He was, despite what has been said, interested in education and put decent money on it. Which is more than some recent rules in the west have done, might I add. :-DSami Parkkonennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-28719343193759537722013-12-16T15:33:39.908+00:002013-12-16T15:33:39.908+00:00Thanks, everyone! :-)Thanks, everyone! :-)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-24351265990883358662013-12-16T06:01:33.375+00:002013-12-16T06:01:33.375+00:00Quite an accomplishment! Of course, he was fortuna...Quite an accomplishment! Of course, he was fortunate to be in a position where he could celebrate an anniversary by founding a college, but considering that only one other king did as much as Edward, it still shows impressive dedication. Of course, it could be that after Henry VI's reign, subsequent monarchs remembered what had happened to the previous two men who founded colleges at both places and decided not to take chances :). Sonetkahttp://anneboleynnovels.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-31511083798561410262013-12-16T02:22:50.897+00:002013-12-16T02:22:50.897+00:00What fascinating information! Though I've nev...What fascinating information! Though I've never believed that Edward was stupid--in fact, I've always thought he was utterly shrewd at achieving a desired end--I didn't know he took such an interest in formal education!<br /><br />It implies that he may have enjoyed his own studies more than his detractors suggest. It's my belief that he took his Coronation Oath in Norman French for the benefit of those in attendance who might not have understood Latin. As for the letter that was once translated for him, didn't that take place later in his reign? As is said of any second language, "if you don't use it, you lose it". Since Edward did possess a truly devout side to his nature, I think he would have wanted to know what he was hearing at Mass. After his "death" he found his calling :-) and devoted his life to it.<br /><br />A terrific post, Kathryn!MRatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-52077533574006255082013-12-15T19:38:59.096+00:002013-12-15T19:38:59.096+00:00Edward II was certainly not 'stupid' - I t...Edward II was certainly not 'stupid' - I think this perception is due in part to the chroniclers of the time - listing his outdoor pursuits at the expense of his scholarly achievements. I wouldn't compare him with Henry VI - I know there were campaigns to make them saints, but Henry VI was extremely pious - that's not to say Edward II wasn't pious, just that Henry VI, for me, is defined by it. Both kings were seen as martyrs at certain points - hence the request for canonisation.Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1644466465716779862013-12-15T15:44:12.166+00:002013-12-15T15:44:12.166+00:00Heh, judging from some self appointed historians c...Heh, judging from some self appointed historians coming up with silly stuff about the Romans, those who come up with silly stuff about Edward will loathe academic education as well. Becuase, you know, those evil academics expect them to cite sources and stuff. ;-)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-70813544119703555452013-12-15T15:24:44.157+00:002013-12-15T15:24:44.157+00:00Thanks, Esther, and good point! :-) Interesting ho...Thanks, Esther, and good point! :-) Interesting how both Edward and Henry were incompetent rulers (and military leaders) too.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-12346859989498079422013-12-15T15:22:28.620+00:002013-12-15T15:22:28.620+00:00Great post! Edward II founds colleges at both Oxf...Great post! Edward II founds colleges at both Oxford and Cambridge ... and, after his death, there was a movement to have him canonised. Henry VI also sets up colleges at both ... and IIRC, after his death, there was a movement to have him canonised, also. Connection?<br /><br />EstherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com