tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post99820886616058610..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Charles de Valois, Grandfather of EuropeKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-60581953785908683982013-12-04T17:33:35.196+00:002013-12-04T17:33:35.196+00:00Good work. I knew about Charles of Valois in Druon...Good work. I knew about Charles of Valois in Druon books and since the first day, Valois was my fave character of them all. Other prefer de Artois but my number one in Druon novels was always this Charles.Guadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12242469740567950136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-933665202041478752013-12-04T17:32:56.539+00:002013-12-04T17:32:56.539+00:00Good work. I knew about Charles of Valois in Druon...Good work. I knew about Charles of Valois in Druon books and since the first day, Valois was my fave character of them all. Other prefer de Artois but my number one in Druon novels was always this Charles.Guadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12242469740567950136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-24329592612522194372013-11-19T18:06:15.403+00:002013-11-19T18:06:15.403+00:00MRats and Caroline - thanks so much for your lovel...MRats and Caroline - thanks so much for your lovely supportive and informative comments! Much appreciated!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-77240602178976937652013-11-19T18:02:31.940+00:002013-11-19T18:02:31.940+00:00It love it. I always feel sorry for Charles who wa...It love it. I always feel sorry for Charles who was crowned king of Aragon and then had all that glory snatched away? It must have been very galling to an ambitious teenager who was unlikely ever to get his brother's throne. He was clearly able and of course younger brothers had a rotten time unless their older brothers did the decent thing and hastily departed this life. It was a shame he never knew his son would eventually get the throne of France but then who would think that all three sons of Philip the fair would die without a single son between them.<br />Keep going Kathryn. You make my week as always.<br />Carolinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-26518265082862709272013-11-19T01:36:20.569+00:002013-11-19T01:36:20.569+00:00A splendid post as always, Kathryn!
In the Druon ...A splendid post as always, Kathryn!<br /><br />In the Druon books, Charles of Valois comes across as an amusingly pompous ass (that's ass/donkey not ass/arse). I've wondered over the years if it's all invention or if Charles truly was that way. Even though his second wife, Catherine de Courtenay, dies seven years before "The Iron King" begins, Druon has Charles assuming the mantle of Constantinople (not), until his daughter is able to come of age so that she can wear it (not). I recall that a man who actually LIVED in Constantinople wore the crown in reality, but it's been so long since I read the books that I've forgotten the emperor's name. <br /><br />Druon also mistakenly has Charles belong to Marie of Brabant, rather than Isabel of Aragon, but I think Druon might have corrected that as the series progressed. (Again, so much time has passed I can't remember.) One would think that Druon would have caught on to that much from the start, with Charles naming three of his daughters "Isabella".<br /><br />Can you imagine that? Druon telling a story wrong? ;-) <br /><br />With Edward's sense of humor, I've always wondered if he was tickled by the idea of Charles taking on the imperial title or if he viewed it with somber decorum.MRatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-17627184626992453522013-11-18T10:47:37.581+00:002013-11-18T10:47:37.581+00:00Thank you, both! :-)Thank you, both! :-)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-69943139508451810612013-11-18T10:37:55.323+00:002013-11-18T10:37:55.323+00:00I do agree with, Anerje! I too know very little ab...I do agree with, Anerje! I too know very little about Edward's European family ties. As always a facinating and meticulously researched article. Katarzyna Ogrodnik-Fujcikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415905019122111675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-68955937667946025832013-11-17T19:30:57.122+00:002013-11-17T19:30:57.122+00:00I always enjoy your posts on Edward's European...I always enjoy your posts on Edward's European ancestors -I know almost nothing about them.uAnerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-53905209414303642222013-11-17T15:44:07.289+00:002013-11-17T15:44:07.289+00:00Thanks, Sami! <3Thanks, Sami! <3Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-11381881961518058232013-11-17T15:38:47.560+00:002013-11-17T15:38:47.560+00:00Stunning work, once again. <3Stunning work, once again. <3Sami Parkkonennoreply@blogger.com