tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post1050415206889577405..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: 27 November 1358: Funeral of Isabella of FranceKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-84303466809961116992018-11-11T23:10:14.121+00:002018-11-11T23:10:14.121+00:00I BELIEVE THAT Edwards heart is actually a large d...I BELIEVE THAT Edwards heart is actually a large diamond. I swear to you,"I BELIEVE I HAVE IT!!! A large gold brooch with their wedding stamped on back. no jewelers marks. but dated Nov 24 1358. Also "Fare thee well Izabella." around very larg tear dropp diamond. arond base on top, and around jewel on bottom. also 3 hanging gold hearts, and the fourth dissconected.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063976655511291502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-30634747842892795112015-12-11T21:24:18.864+00:002015-12-11T21:24:18.864+00:00Thank you for your reply!:)Thank you for your reply!:)Anonymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357464006765148814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-43608563240579092802015-12-11T21:23:45.721+00:002015-12-11T21:23:45.721+00:00Thank you for you reply!:) Thank you for you reply!:) Anonymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357464006765148814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-29360213207627679502015-12-11T08:07:39.298+00:002015-12-11T08:07:39.298+00:00Hi, it's lovely to hear from one of my Russian...Hi, it's lovely to hear from one of my Russian visitors! :) Welcome, and thanks for reading!<br /><br />I'm pretty sure that at least Edward of Woodstock and Lionel attended the funeral. Isabella spent quite a bit of time with those two in the months before her death. Not sure about the others, but it seems likely that they attended as well.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-78836804175667123812015-12-11T00:54:07.912+00:002015-12-11T00:54:07.912+00:00Hello! I'm one of your regular visitors from R...Hello! I'm one of your regular visitors from Russia! Just really fascinated by The Plantagenets and medieval history in particular! Thanks for posting amazing content on the blog! Can I ask if it's known weather any of Isabella's grandchildren were at her funeral? I think I read somewhere that Edward of Woodstock was her favorite so to say grandkid:)Anonymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357464006765148814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-20737959319708523512015-11-29T00:40:29.153+00:002015-11-29T00:40:29.153+00:00Great post, as usual. If her ghost does, in fact,...Great post, as usual. If her ghost does, in fact, haunt a bypass, it is a shame that the "paranormal investigators" they had on the Medieval Murder series didn't talk to her. I wish, though, that they could shut down the street and try to excavate the London Greyfriars as they were able to do somewhat in Leicester -- maybe Isabella could still be found.<br /><br />EstherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-10376231764050499852015-11-28T18:42:07.498+00:002015-11-28T18:42:07.498+00:00Fine stuff once again.
Her son attending her fun...Fine stuff once again. <br /><br />Her son attending her funeral is a nice touch too and should also clear the air about their relationship. <br /><br />I find this somehow moving.<br /><br />I am not familiar of the medieval funeral customs but I would assume that queen, or a royal, would have planned his/her funeral well beforehand and in some detail. I am not sure where from I got this idea but for some reason I think I read this from somewhere. Do not ask where from, I have no clue.sami parkkonennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-27049938579178438302015-11-28T06:17:52.672+00:002015-11-28T06:17:52.672+00:00Edward I died 7 July 1307, buried 27 October; Edwa...Edward I died 7 July 1307, buried 27 October; Edward II, died (?) 21 September 1327, buried 20 December; Philippa of Hainault, died 15 August 1369, buried 9 January 1370. There was generally a long delay because the splendour of royal funerals and inviting VIPs to attend took a long time to organise. And yes, royal bodies were embalmed - not sure why you presume they weren't - though some nobles specified in their wills that they didn't want to be, and hence were buried soon after death. 'That was for the serious hoi poilloi' - yes, which is why I specified 'when a king or queen died' in the post and didn't make it general to anyone else.<br /><br />Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-80129781700108178352015-11-27T23:15:21.352+00:002015-11-27T23:15:21.352+00:00"there was a long delay between death and fun..."there was a long delay between death and funeral, and three months was entirely usual." - out of interest why was this entirely usual? Presumably the corpse wasn't embalmed or kept on ice for three months and so three months after death...frankly I dread to think.<br /><br />Was it a lack of knowledge of disease, a wish to bury the body in a certain place or everything stank so much a decomposing body didn't really add much to the ambience and had they not learnt from William the Bastard's end?<br /><br />Really "three months was entirely usual"? That was for the serious hoi poilloi and the run of the mill were shrouded and buried within hours - and even a shroud would have been for the rich.<br /><br />How many lost graves did she, Mortimer, her husband and son create?<br /><br />And that's a question rarely asked, or answered by historians - what was the human cost?churchaholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13664676339711692603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-34013566356385748382015-11-27T20:51:57.401+00:002015-11-27T20:51:57.401+00:00It's ridiculous to think Edward III would allo...It's ridiculous to think Edward III would allow his mother to be buried next to Roger Mortimer! It just wouldn't have happened! And as you rightly say, there's no evidence she wanted to be. How convenient of her to die and time her funeral to almost the day of Mortimer's date of execution haha! As if.....what would these romantic novelists make of her being buried with her wedding clothes and possibly the heart of her husband? <br /><br /><br />I once read - years and years ago - that her ghost haunts the bypass built over the Greyfriars site. Such a shame the religious house was destroyed.Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.com