tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post115659804191723939..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Edward II And The ImposterKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-25256237438245955412016-12-18T07:29:56.078+00:002016-12-18T07:29:56.078+00:00Unfortunately I'm away till New Year so can...Unfortunately I'm away till New Year so can't access my notes and the dates of the 1318 parliament. The exact date of Powderham's execution isn't known. I talk about it a bit more in my Edward bio, if you have access to that.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-68594871975934801202016-12-17T14:25:18.473+00:002016-12-17T14:25:18.473+00:00Do you know the date John of Powderham was execute...Do you know the date John of Powderham was executed? One site says June 1318, but other sites are saying the Northampton Parliament of 1318 wasn't until August.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-37083402347654071092013-07-21T12:27:21.429+01:002013-07-21T12:27:21.429+01:00Haha! :-)Haha! :-)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-68128722092005785092013-07-21T12:26:29.296+01:002013-07-21T12:26:29.296+01:00" lend me your ear" I see now." lend me your ear" I see now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16396870163520191447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156959457692286202006-08-30T18:37:00.000+01:002006-08-30T18:37:00.000+01:00Carla - not sure I'd enjoy a programme presenting ...Carla - not sure I'd enjoy a programme presenting Caroline of Brunswick as some kind of proto-Diana...<BR/><BR/>And you're absolutely right - I find it difficult to really grasp just how vital rank and status were in the Middle Ages (and much later as well, of course). I always find it amusing to look at medieval Sumptuary Laws, for example.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156958410543998542006-08-30T18:20:00.000+01:002006-08-30T18:20:00.000+01:00Back on-topic again, this disgust of 'peasant thin...Back on-topic again, this disgust of 'peasant things' illustrates the central importance of rank in medieval society rather well, doesn't it? I think that's one of the hardest things for a modern reader to grasp, brought up on notions of democracy and equality and the rights of man as we are.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156954079291895362006-08-30T17:07:00.000+01:002006-08-30T17:07:00.000+01:00There was a TV programme a while ago attempting to...There was a TV programme a while ago attempting to cast Caroline of Brunswick as a sort of prequel to Princess Diana. Popular with the people, divorced by an uncaring husband and so on. I don't remember that much about it, except that I had trouble seeing Prince Charles in the role of George IV. Not that I know anything much about their marriage, just that I tend to dislike programmes (and books) with a too-obvious Message. Always wonder what inconvenient facts they haven't reported.<BR/>(Sorry, this has wandered off-topic!)Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156947186941554472006-08-30T15:13:00.000+01:002006-08-30T15:13:00.000+01:00LOL, Carla! Just about the only thing I remember ...LOL, Carla! Just about the only thing I remember about the Prince Regent/George IV was that he barred his wife Caroline of Brunswick from his coronation (and divorced her, I think).Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156942231312135832006-08-30T13:50:00.000+01:002006-08-30T13:50:00.000+01:00Geroge III sounds about right, Alianore. And the ...Geroge III sounds about right, Alianore. And the Prince Regent's gambling and womanising was <I>such</I> an improvement.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156936216667885632006-08-30T12:10:00.000+01:002006-08-30T12:10:00.000+01:00I believe it was George III, Carla - that's really...I believe it was George III, Carla - that's really not my period, but I remember hearing that he was derisively known as 'Farmer George'. And you're right that Edward wouldn't have been accepted by society until very recently - in 1910, an article called 'Was Edward II a Degenerate?' was published, arguing at least in part that Edward's interest in the mechanical arts demonstrated low intelligence. This theme was continued by other historians for several more decades.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156930369541831462006-08-30T10:32:00.000+01:002006-08-30T10:32:00.000+01:00I remember vaguely that one of the Georges was cri...I remember vaguely that one of the Georges was criticised for his interest in farming and for being more like a country squire than a king. Can't remember which one, or the source, but it suggests that the prejudice against 'unkingly' pursuits was long-lived. Poor Edward might have had to wait a long time before finding a society that would accept him.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156765244162049632006-08-28T12:40:00.000+01:002006-08-28T12:40:00.000+01:00Thanks, Alianore! I keep hoping I'll stumble onto ...Thanks, Alianore! I keep hoping I'll stumble onto some more.<BR/><BR/>Enjoyed this post. Pity about the poor cat, though.Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156615163530310672006-08-26T18:59:00.000+01:002006-08-26T18:59:00.000+01:00Yes, he's certainly a popular subject for fiction ...Yes, he's certainly a popular subject for fiction writers, Gabriele - fortunately for me! If you're interested, Susan has a <A HREF="http://www.susanhigginbotham.com/EdwardIIfiction.htm" REL="nofollow">list of Edward II novels on her website.</A>Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1156612447673031372006-08-26T18:14:00.000+01:002006-08-26T18:14:00.000+01:00Lol, I had no idea Edward II was so popular with n...Lol, I had no idea Edward II was so popular with novel writers. You keep finding them. :)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.com