tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post1562650761639823367..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Elizabeth de Clare, Isabella de Verdon, the Auramala Project and Mitochondrial DNAKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-15080032155325855302021-01-02T17:10:42.297+00:002021-01-02T17:10:42.297+00:00Am I too late to point out that Lucy Stafford nee ...Am I too late to point out that Lucy Stafford nee Eyre had several other daughters, among them my ancestress Gertrude Stafford 1544-1624, who married Rowland Eyre of Hassop; I'm descended from their son Adam Eyre of Bradway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05448225368771203930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-84397040634703718792015-10-30T04:19:24.447+00:002015-10-30T04:19:24.447+00:00I'm a descendant of Joan of Acre, her daughter...I'm a descendant of Joan of Acre, her daughter, Elinor de Clare, Elizabeth de Spencer, the Berkeley's, Dennis, Bassett, then Frances Dighton and Richard Williams, who emigrated to Massachusetts in the 1630's. Thousands of descendants of Joan of Acre, are in the U.S. Unfortunately, not a straight maternal line, we descend back and forth between mothers, daughters and sons.Aresea62https://www.blogger.com/profile/18397032553375264828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-57156114862481968102015-10-19T15:15:51.920+01:002015-10-19T15:15:51.920+01:00Hello Kathryn, hello everyone, thank you Kathryn f...Hello Kathryn, hello everyone, thank you Kathryn for mentioning our research on your blog, and thanks to everyone who has shared comments. Brad, I saw your work on the matrilineal line, which Kathryn pointed out to me. Thank you so much for sharing it! It's so important now to find a descendant. It would be such a boost to the project. I'm going to put another post on this subject on the Auramala Project blog this afternoon, hope everyone can check it out! Ivan Fowler.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05663800148464825570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-27733149926675294162015-10-18T19:33:29.507+01:002015-10-18T19:33:29.507+01:00Test - I'm having trouble posting here. Will...Test - I'm having trouble posting here. Will this one work?Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-53702224247402836042015-10-18T13:45:51.188+01:002015-10-18T13:45:51.188+01:00Thanks for that, Brad, that's great!Thanks for that, Brad, that's great!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-33355039391106395872015-10-17T16:14:11.694+01:002015-10-17T16:14:11.694+01:00Kathryn, I was tracing an ancestry back two days a...Kathryn, I was tracing an ancestry back two days ago and came across the Morewood family. They were seated at The Oaks, in Bradfield, Yorkshire. I realize that the mtDNA of Eleanor of Castile runs through a generation of this family. Here is a link to a good online pedigree:<br />http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk/genealogy/morewood.htm <br /><br />The generation you want to look closely at is that of Rowland Morewood of the Oaks (d. 1619) and his wife Catherine Stafford of Eyam (d. 1595), for she is a direct female-line descendant of Eleanor of Castile, as so:<br /><br />1) Joan of Acre (1272-1307)<br />2) Elizabeth de Clare (1295-1360)<br />3) Isabel Verdun (1317-1349)<br />4) Elizabeth Ferrers (c.1335-1375)<br />5) Elizabeth Strabolgi (1361-1416)<br />6) Elizabeth Scrope (c.1403-1455)<br />7) Elizabeth Clarell (1423-1503)<br />8) Margaret Fitzwilliam (d. 1505)<br />9) Elizabeth Reresby<br />10) Lucy Eyre (d. 1556)<br />11) Catherine Stafford (d. 1595) m. Rowland Morewood of The Oaks<br /><br />Per the pedigree there were five Morewood sisters in Generation 12 who were married: <br />1) Gertrude Morewood, wife of Jeffrey Roberts<br />2) Anne Morewood, wife of James Bullock of Green-hill in Norton, gent.<br />3) Alice Morewood, wife of John Bamford of Pule-hill in the parish of Silkston, esq., a justice of the peace and treasurer for the lame soldiers<br />4) Elizabeth Morewood, wife of Ralph Greaves<br />5) Faith Morewood, wife of Reginald Eyre of Maltby co. York<br /><br />There's a good chance that at least one or two of the above sisters left a daughter to continue the mtDNA line a further generation. Luckily, these daughters, if there were any, were born in the 17th-century, with many parish registers surviving. Hopefully researching these Morewood ladies and their spouses won't be too difficult for the Project. Good luck and please keep us posted - I've always wondered if Eleanor of Castile's mtDNA could have survived 800 years to today!Brad Verityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625952433525136026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-20490966420714088202015-10-17T16:12:29.862+01:002015-10-17T16:12:29.862+01:00Kathryn, I was tracing an ancestry back two days a...Kathryn, I was tracing an ancestry back two days ago and came across the Morewood family. They were seated at The Oaks, in Bradfield, Yorkshire. I realize that the mtDNA of Eleanor of Castile runs through a generation of this family. Here is a link to a good online pedigree:<br />http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk/genealogy/morewood.htm <br /><br />The generation you want to look closely at is that of Rowland Morewood of the Oaks (d. 1619) and his wife Catherine Stafford of Eyam (d. 1595), for she is a direct female-line descendant of Eleanor of Castile, as so:<br /><br />1) Joan of Acre (1272-1307)<br />2) Elizabeth de Clare (1295-1360)<br />3) Isabel Verdun (1317-1349)<br />4) Elizabeth Ferrers (c.1335-1375)<br />5) Elizabeth Strabolgi (1361-1416)<br />6) Elizabeth Scrope (c.1403-1455)<br />7) Elizabeth Clarell (1423-1503)<br />8) Margaret Fitzwilliam (d. 1505)<br />9) Elizabeth Reresby<br />10) Lucy Eyre (d. 1556)<br />11) Catherine Stafford (d. 1595) m. Rowland Morewood of The Oaks<br /><br />Per the pedigree there were five Morewood sisters in Generation 12 who were married: <br />1) Gertrude Morewood, wife of Jeffrey Roberts<br />2) Anne Morewood, wife of James Bullock of Green-hill in Norton, gent.<br />3) Alice Morewood, wife of John Bamford of Pule-hill in the parish of Silkston, esq., a justice of the peace and treasurer for the lame soldiers<br />4) Elizabeth Morewood, wife of Ralph Greaves<br />5) Faith Morewood, wife of Reginald Eyre of Maltby co. York<br /><br />There's a good chance that at least one or two of the above sisters left a daughter to continue the mtDNA line a further generation. Luckily, these daughters, if there were any, were born in the 17th-century, with many parish registers surviving. Hopefully researching these Morewood ladies and their spouses won't be too difficult for the Project. Good luck and please keep us posted - I've always wondered if Eleanor of Castile's mtDNA could have survived 800 years to today!Brad Verityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625952433525136026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-60307295145493598442015-10-16T05:24:47.460+01:002015-10-16T05:24:47.460+01:00Esther, there are nothing available as yet - we...Esther, there are nothing available as yet - we're trying to find descendants first.<br /><br />Anerje, unfortunately didn't get your comment :(Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-33311936714716664492015-10-15T19:15:51.836+01:002015-10-15T19:15:51.836+01:00hmm, what happened to my comment? I clicked post....hmm, what happened to my comment? I clicked post.Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-87874019189502919812015-10-14T23:59:20.640+01:002015-10-14T23:59:20.640+01:00Interesting. Good idea to trace a descendant now ...Interesting. Good idea to trace a descendant now (and preserve the sample) -- with Richard III, at least one of the collateral descendants whose mitochondrial DNA they used doesn't have any children -- the line could have died out before Richard was found. Is there anything available to test now, or, do they have to wait to get permission to test the person buried in Edward's tomb?<br /><br />EstherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-64324851939272738742015-10-14T11:04:04.399+01:002015-10-14T11:04:04.399+01:00Thanks, Kasia and Kat! :)Thanks, Kasia and Kat! :)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-41065667789087928742015-10-14T06:38:55.686+01:002015-10-14T06:38:55.686+01:00I have been doing my own genealogy for years now, ...I have been doing my own genealogy for years now, and I've discovered that I'm descended from Joan of Acre by her daughter Elizabeth de Clare and granddaughter Isabella de Verdon. It's fascinating to learn the stories behind the names and dates. That's why I love history so much. Thanks for sharing your research!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257881465284457042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-53442739275504059922015-10-13T21:43:43.851+01:002015-10-13T21:43:43.851+01:00Fascinating post! And it was great to see Henry th...Fascinating post! And it was great to see Henry the Young King and Margurite in it :-)Katarzyna Ogrodnik-Fujcikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415905019122111675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-92094908714323347532015-10-13T15:37:10.819+01:002015-10-13T15:37:10.819+01:00Thanks, Stephen! Dr Ashdown Hill did such a great ...Thanks, Stephen! Dr Ashdown Hill did such a great job finding a relative of Richard III!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-58117042448334018862015-10-13T15:33:35.447+01:002015-10-13T15:33:35.447+01:00That looks very interesting.That looks very interesting.Super Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14448524568325546537noreply@blogger.com