tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post6028001260075512464..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Edward II and Langley PrioryKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-22844940605385921332008-09-23T12:06:00.000+01:002008-09-23T12:06:00.000+01:00He might well have enjoyed the digging and thatchi...He might well have enjoyed the digging and thatching if they let him help the lay brothers :-) And at least the quarrelsome factions didn't kill each other. He might have enjoyed the comparative peacefulness, and perhaps looked forward to meeting Piers again in the next world.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-51253984875424656322008-09-22T17:35:00.000+01:002008-09-22T17:35:00.000+01:00That's so sad. :(That's so sad. :(Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-60137419155051102282008-09-22T16:08:00.000+01:002008-09-22T16:08:00.000+01:00Too true Susan. I used to live a few miles from K...Too true Susan. I used to live a few miles from Kings Langley and sadly it's rather a dump nowadays. Ed would turn in his grave if he could see the place now; you would never know such a magnificent building had ever been there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-834309889307862172008-09-20T09:55:00.000+01:002008-09-20T09:55:00.000+01:00Anerje: it's really sad, isn't it - if someone wen...Anerje: it's really sad, isn't it - if someone went to the trouble of rescuing Edmund's tomb, couldn't they have saved Piers' as well?! Maybe one day excavations will find it...I live in hope...<BR/><BR/>Gabriele: whatever can you mean by temptations?! *evil grin*<BR/><BR/>Christy: it's fascinating, isn't it? Love the thought of Ed later in life, officially dead, belatedly able to undertake all those outdoor tasks he loved!<BR/><BR/>Susan: it really makes me sad to think of all those wonderful buildings being demolished or left to collapse.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-55817787951028116362008-09-19T14:35:00.000+01:002008-09-19T14:35:00.000+01:00Pity that it made it through Henry VIII, only to b...Pity that it made it through Henry VIII, only to be destroyed later. Oh, to see some of those lost buildings!Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-92178958604727179802008-09-19T04:38:00.000+01:002008-09-19T04:38:00.000+01:00The founding of all those religious institutions, ...The founding of all those religious institutions, chapels, and chantries to buy nobility and royalty out of purgatory and hell is fascinating (especially to a Protestant!). ..."for the safety of his own soul and those of his ancestors..." <BR/><BR/>That belief (big business for Rome!) in paying for sins in this life mostly excused immoral behavior of all sorts: lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, etc. Buy the indulgence now, and hellfire insurance for later by building or sponsoring a religious foundation.<BR/><BR/>Edward probably did lead a monastic life after his "death" and travels to Europe. It could not have been Plan A, obviously, but perhaps he found peace and respect in a structured, disciplined, cultured life. Maybe they let him cultivate the kitchen garden for jollies!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-4745960866860649692008-09-18T22:17:00.000+01:002008-09-18T22:17:00.000+01:00Nay, I can't see Ed as life time monk, either. No ...Nay, I can't see Ed as life time monk, either. No pretty clothes and too many temptations. :)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-67181858193186950522008-09-18T18:34:00.000+01:002008-09-18T18:34:00.000+01:00Have done a bit of investigating myself regarding ...Have done a bit of investigating myself regarding Langley Priory. Was hoping Piers' tomb had survived - and who knows, he may lie beneath the foundatons of the school. I gather Edmund, Duke of York's tomb survived because it was moved to the local church. With Piers' reputation, I guess nobody wanted to protect hs tomb (sigh).Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-91257310160726468822008-09-18T17:41:00.000+01:002008-09-18T17:41:00.000+01:00Lady D: exactly - there's that lovely quote about ...Lady D: exactly - there's that lovely quote about Ed staying at Bury St Edmunds in 1300, when one of the monks commented 'he became our brother in chapter'. I think he enjoyed the peace and solitude once in a while, but I can't see him enjoying the lifestyle for too long!<BR/><BR/>Little London was apparently some kind of lodge in the park at Langley. In 1305, Ed started to have a chamber built 'at the gate of Little London', but Ed I ordered him to stop the work and restore it to how it had been in Eleanor of Castile's lifetime.<BR/><BR/>The only quote I can remember seeing about the priory is that it rivalled Westminster Abbey (wow!)<BR/><BR/>LOL at word verif...;)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-77859089113512239782008-09-18T16:14:00.000+01:002008-09-18T16:14:00.000+01:00Really interesting to see how devoted he was to hi...Really interesting to see how devoted he was to his priory there. I think part of him envied the simple lives of the monks - although I'm not sure if he had the right personality to make a good monk (not for long anyway). <BR/><BR/>Do you know what sort of building Little London was? Was it attached to the palace there or a building on its own?<BR/><BR/>It's so sad that what was Langley has now disappeared into practically nothing. I bet it was a beautiful place in its day. Are there any surviving descriptions do you know?<BR/><BR/>Also - thought it mildly amusing that my word verification has the letters qqeer!Jules Frusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207281934232383811noreply@blogger.com