tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post6500403735606078193..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Piers Gaveston's Insulting Nicknames, and An Illegitimate SquireKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-71129103120631541312008-04-01T21:55:00.000+01:002008-04-01T21:55:00.000+01:00Piers would have made Simon Cowell look like an am...Piers would have made Simon Cowell look like an amateur!Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-30062378037143450272008-03-06T19:38:00.000+00:002008-03-06T19:38:00.000+00:00Alianore, could you please pop over to my blog and...Alianore, could you please pop over to my blog and sort out the problem of Roger Clifford's execution? :)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-47630053730474473132008-03-06T06:42:00.000+00:002008-03-06T06:42:00.000+00:00Kate: nooo, please do! It's great to hear that yo...Kate: nooo, please do! It's great to hear that you're descended from these fascinating people. I'm just jealous. ;)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-15028166305465634692008-03-06T02:22:00.000+00:002008-03-06T02:22:00.000+00:00You know what it is like with all the marriages an...You know what it is like with all the marriages and intermarriages, once you find a little track in...the whole world of the nobility (and then almost definitely) royalty opens up!!!!<BR/><BR/>I promise I won't mention any more of my ancestors that you write about!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-64470671010323929902008-03-04T12:57:00.000+00:002008-03-04T12:57:00.000+00:00I agree! Wouldn't it be great if we could know wh...I agree! Wouldn't it be great if we could know what all these people looked like? *Curses lack of portraits and descriptions*.<BR/><BR/>Kate, is there any famous person from this era you're not descended from?! ;) You lucky thing!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-73453392017373339332008-03-04T07:21:00.000+00:002008-03-04T07:21:00.000+00:00LOL, Lady D! "You know, in my time things were qui...LOL, Lady D! "You know, in my time things were quite different, there was a lot more discipline!"<BR/><BR/>Kate, I too would love to know what everyone looked like!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-89500557436178865022008-03-04T06:39:00.000+00:002008-03-04T06:39:00.000+00:00Of course Ralph had something....it is all in the ...Of course Ralph had something....it is all in the genes!<BR/>*winks*<BR/><BR/>Pity there is no likeness of him....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-52314186624316486002008-03-03T16:17:00.000+00:002008-03-03T16:17:00.000+00:00Tch tch, those youngsters! They never listen!Tch tch, those youngsters! They never listen!Jules Frusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207281934232383811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-57020135028734349082008-03-03T10:28:00.000+00:002008-03-03T10:28:00.000+00:00Wonder if the old king even cared to ask them if t...Wonder if the old king even cared to ask them if they had won before twisting their ears!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-43819339263962179102008-03-03T08:54:00.000+00:002008-03-03T08:54:00.000+00:00Hehe, yes - "sod the war in Scotland, we're going ...Hehe, yes - "sod the war in Scotland, we're going jousting." :-) There was quite a lot of them - a couple of dozen, as far as I remember.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-47332090730412564642008-03-03T07:19:00.000+00:002008-03-03T07:19:00.000+00:00Alianore: hehe, re jousting, remember when Piers a...Alianore: hehe, re jousting, remember when Piers and Roger and others smuggled themselves to France for a contest and were punished by Edward senior when they returned?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-42592676306665624772008-03-02T21:03:00.000+00:002008-03-02T21:03:00.000+00:00And Lancaster and Hereford both paid for it... Her...And Lancaster and Hereford both paid for it... Hereford truly terribly.<BR/><BR/>I suspect that if Hereford had been able to think clearly through the pain as he was dying, he would have reflected that killing Piers had been jumping from the frying pan into the fire... And Lancaster, who definitely had time to think before he was executed, must have felt that he should have realised that by killing Piers he was creating a job vacancy - and that the man who filled it could be - and was, as events turned out - much worse...Carolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03573732617118300609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-52845940856819446272008-03-02T20:18:00.000+00:002008-03-02T20:18:00.000+00:00It's like Eleanor de Clare marrying William la Zou...It's like Eleanor de Clare marrying William la Zouche, who was the widower of Alice de Toeni, who was Hugh Despenser's aunt by marriage. ;) Crazy!<BR/><BR/>Carole: no, Piers wasn't interested in politics, unlike certain other favourites of the era we could mention. No doubt the men who killed him thought they'd done everyone a favour, then realised years later how much worse Ed's favourites could be.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-62938163393224513422008-03-02T18:54:00.000+00:002008-03-02T18:54:00.000+00:00LOL - Ralph certainly believed in keeping it in th...LOL - Ralph certainly believed in keeping it in the family - didn't he?! First Eleanor's mum, then Hugh's sister! Guess he must have liked their Christmas parties or something!<BR/><BR/>And yes, Piers certainly knew how to ruffle feathers! Elflady - that is sooo right, I can just see the Earls getting all huffy now :-)Jules Frusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207281934232383811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-50673325046616978422008-03-02T16:59:00.000+00:002008-03-02T16:59:00.000+00:00The current UK version is called The X Factor...I ...The current UK version is called The X Factor...<BR/><BR/>I think elflady is spot on!<BR/><BR/>I've always had a soft spot for Piers... he was hard done by.<BR/><BR/>I've always equated Lancaster, Hereford & co. with the boy who cried wolf... Got rid of Piers, who was basically guilty of nothing but arrogance and being too close to the king - correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't think of an instance of Piers doing any major interfering in politics...<BR/><BR/>Where as Despenser on the other hand... They must have wondered if they should have just left well alone...Carolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03573732617118300609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-21349405464073804872008-03-02T16:54:00.000+00:002008-03-02T16:54:00.000+00:00Someone gave me a Dieter Bohlen doll a couple of y...Someone gave me a Dieter Bohlen doll a couple of years ago. (I still have no idea why.) <BR/><BR/>LOL, I can just see Piers on Pop Stars, or whatever the British version of the show is called, making the contestants cry with his scathing yet very witty comments. ;)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-35176719975727822362008-03-02T16:33:00.000+00:002008-03-02T16:33:00.000+00:00Piers should have been the mean judge in the Briti...Piers should have been the mean judge in the British version of American Idol. <BR/><BR/>Btw, we have that show here as well, and Dieter Bohlen is the delightfully mean judge.Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-46002280089189242422008-03-02T16:09:00.000+00:002008-03-02T16:09:00.000+00:00Elflady: *giggles*. That's how I see it, too - no...Elflady: *giggles*. That's how I see it, too - not only could he knock them off their horses at will on the jousting field, he also had far more wit than they did, and they had no comeback! ;)<BR/><BR/>Carole: *faints at thought of Ralph's hotness* :-)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-70390151621754065492008-03-02T11:55:00.000+00:002008-03-02T11:55:00.000+00:00LOL, I can imagine Gaveston calling them names to ...LOL, I can imagine Gaveston calling them names to their faces, with an ironic grin and a wink to Edward, and them, full of a terrible but impotent rage, muttering through gritted teeth: "You...,you!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-73736969045636489032008-03-02T10:23:00.000+00:002008-03-02T10:23:00.000+00:00Alianore, you are right, Ralph must have been real...Alianore, you are right, Ralph must have been really hot!Carolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03573732617118300609noreply@blogger.com