tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post6504637026016673203..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: New Novels of Edward IIKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-14123011710526938572008-03-31T21:25:00.000+01:002008-03-31T21:25:00.000+01:00I've just finished 'The Confession of Piers Gavest...I've just finished 'The Confession of Piers Gaveston', and whilst it started promisingly, it soon deterioated, IMO. I left my comments in Piers thread at Alianore's excellent Edward II forum.Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-39424118004803168812007-08-07T15:25:00.000+01:002007-08-07T15:25:00.000+01:00Or maybe all of these extra kids went to Isabella ...Or maybe all of these extra kids went to Isabella and Edward II. That would prevent them from ever having to sleep together, which would fit some novelists' conception of their marriage very nicely . . .Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-18233854777428664842007-08-07T14:45:00.000+01:002007-08-07T14:45:00.000+01:00Oh dear. ;) To be fair, I did enjoy his last Edw...Oh dear. ;) To be fair, I did enjoy his last Edward II novel (<I>Cup of Ghosts</I>) very much, and it's a lot more accurate than this one seems to be. But I've been re-reading his <I>Isabella and the Strange Death of Edward II</I> recently, and I've been stunned anew by all the errors in it. Not just historical errors, though goodness knows there are plenty of those, but things that the editor should have caught. Like, getting Margaret de Clare's name wrong ("Joan of Gloucester") 11 pages after getting it right, changing Isabella's date of birth at least three times, and saying (correctly) in one sentence that custody of Ed II was transferred to Berkeley and Maltravers on 3 April 1327. The <I> very next sentence</I> then says that they "secured the deposed King in the last week of March"!!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-31669534201178840252007-08-07T14:20:00.000+01:002007-08-07T14:20:00.000+01:00*loud laughter*You girls crack me up. Poor Dohert...*loud laughter*<BR/><BR/>You girls crack me up. Poor Doherty. He is toast!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-70323255705255087732007-08-07T14:04:00.000+01:002007-08-07T14:04:00.000+01:00Funny you should mention The Love Knot, Susan - I ...Funny you should mention <I>The Love Knot</I>, Susan - I had exactly the same thought! So <I>that's</I> where Elizabeth de Clare went...she was Edward I's daughter, not granddaughter! How silly of us all not to notice before! :)<BR/><BR/>...And I've just noticed that the 'Postscript' of <I>Love Knot</I> states that Joan of Acre and Ralph de Monthermer had two sons and one daughter. *Bangs head on table*. Wonder if it's Joan or Mary that he's ignoring? Dearie me, Doherty's not very good at this.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-68991792308268775722007-08-07T13:46:00.000+01:002007-08-07T13:46:00.000+01:00(Maybe that's where the extra child given to Edwar...(Maybe that's where the extra child given to Edward I came from--he gave him one of Joan of Acre's!)Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-26799470764741032992007-08-07T13:45:00.000+01:002007-08-07T13:45:00.000+01:00Shame about the Doherty! I think the man needs to ...Shame about the Doherty! I think the man needs to slow down a bit in the novel output department. I remember in <I>The Love Knot</I>, the novel he wrote as Vanessa Alexander, he annoyed me because he gave Joan of Acre and Gilbert de Clare only three children instead of four . . .Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-11179358270027999452007-08-07T06:42:00.000+01:002007-08-07T06:42:00.000+01:00Gabriele: good point, and all the Ed II novels I'v...Gabriele: good point, and all the Ed II novels I've read recently, except the one in question, have been extremely tolerant of his sexuality.<BR/><BR/>I think calling the woman you're talking about 'a lady' is nicer than she deserves...;)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-11731984093865286972007-08-06T19:17:00.000+01:002007-08-06T19:17:00.000+01:00Maybe the increasing tolerance towards homo- and b...Maybe the increasing tolerance towards homo- and bisexuality helps a bit as well. <BR/><BR/>Except in the mind of a certain lady I won't mention here. ;)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-65276360277595913882007-08-06T12:09:00.000+01:002007-08-06T12:09:00.000+01:00Carla: I hope you're right - I'd love to see a few...Carla: I hope you're right - I'd love to see a few more sympathetic depictions of Ed! ;)<BR/><BR/>Kate: I'm feeling HP-deprived, too. :( I'd love to think that my blog has helped a few people to view Ed in a more positive light - I'm not sure, though!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-15550067552807528932007-08-06T11:24:00.000+01:002007-08-06T11:24:00.000+01:00Thanks Alianore, I was on the hunt for something t...Thanks Alianore, I was on the hunt for something to read since I finished Harry Potter 7 *sighs sadly*. The 'sequel' to Pride and Prejudice I am reading at the moment is....um....interesting! Fruity would be the word to describe it.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps your writing/blog/research/website has been part of a wave of new understanding of EdII. Terrific.<BR/><BR/>Happy reading everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-18631930338334127992007-08-05T11:56:00.000+01:002007-08-05T11:56:00.000+01:00Maybe the pendulum's starting to swing back the ot...Maybe the pendulum's starting to swing back the other way to a sympathetic Edward II - ISTR I theorised that it would when enough people had got sufficiently bored with the nancy-boy image :-) I'll keep an eye out for these next time I'm in the market for a historical mystery.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-2686491330860888522007-08-04T19:10:00.000+01:002007-08-04T19:10:00.000+01:00*giggles**giggles*Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-35125524952440190452007-08-04T15:51:00.000+01:002007-08-04T15:51:00.000+01:00"HEY, DR PHILLIPS!! GIVE US THE BIOGRAPHY NOWWWWW...<B>"HEY, DR PHILLIPS!! GIVE US THE BIOGRAPHY NOWWWWWWW!!!"</B><BR/><BR/>There! He must have heard that. ;)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-34824739795719134752007-08-04T15:45:00.000+01:002007-08-04T15:45:00.000+01:00Yeah! WE WANT A BIO! (Think he heard us?)Yeah! WE WANT A BIO! (Think he heard us?)Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-50289119040278751382007-08-04T14:10:00.000+01:002007-08-04T14:10:00.000+01:00It really is, isn't it? Now if only Seymour Phill...It really is, isn't it? Now if only Seymour Phillips would hurry up with the biography of Edward he's supposed to be writing...Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-34205769378384909682007-08-04T13:05:00.000+01:002007-08-04T13:05:00.000+01:00This is shaping up to be a good Edward II summer, ...This is shaping up to be a good Edward II summer, bookwise!Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.com