tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post683140823619674791..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: And Your Weather Forecast For The Early Fourteenth Century Is...Kathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-12229538646809058522023-12-22T05:48:13.947+00:002023-12-22T05:48:13.947+00:00I find it strange that there were so many eclipses...I find it strange that there were so many eclipses in such a short period. <br /><br />I read somewhere that during the same period there was a cattle and sheep disease.. cow pox? <br /><br />The storms are described like Derecho, and are horribly scary. <br /><br />Also is there a pattern occuring with the dates of the eclipses? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-68993445886952782482010-03-10T07:56:30.243+00:002010-03-10T07:56:30.243+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.炒米粉Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17846974192729945304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-597389781117034712009-10-08T21:53:36.175+01:002009-10-08T21:53:36.175+01:00Hello Alianore!! I couldn't find an email addr...Hello Alianore!! I couldn't find an email address for you, so I hope you get this comment! I was searching for images of San Fernando, and stumbled across your excellent blog! Wow, you sure do have tons of fascinating information about King Edward II and his era. The period from about 1300 to 1600 is my favorite in British history! <br /><br />Anyway, I have a website dedicated to my genealogy, which is what I was looking for the image for. I am a descendant of Edward I through his youngest daughter Elizabeth.<br /><br />If you would like to visit my site, you can find it at <br />http://ladykatharine.net<br /><br />I would welcome getting in touch with you to share info and enthusiasm for English history! Feel free to email me from my site.<br /><br />K. de Courtenay<br />(p.s. my kitty blog is just for fun!)Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16438086958539202410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-70259314741232556512009-09-17T23:53:54.854+01:002009-09-17T23:53:54.854+01:00Not that I've come across, though I haven'...Not that I've come across, though I haven't done any searching. Hekla in Iceland erupted in 1300-ish and 1340-ish, so that doesn't fit. The blood-red sky just reminded me immediately of the descriptions of the aftermath of Krakatoa in 18-whatever-it-was.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-31709744572815257222009-09-16T09:13:59.818+01:002009-09-16T09:13:59.818+01:00Carla: what a very interesting idea! I wonder if ...Carla: what a very interesting idea! I wonder if there's any info about that online...Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-10652539999835157502009-09-15T11:41:15.067+01:002009-09-15T11:41:15.067+01:00The medieval belief that weather events were a dir...The medieval belief that weather events were a direct result of divine approval/disapproval could account for the chroniclers' interest in recording them. I wonder if there was some massive volcanic eruption somewhere in the world that threw a cloud of ash up into the atmosphere and produced disruption in weather patterns and things like the blood-red sky.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-63991654624626729032009-09-12T07:23:51.133+01:002009-09-12T07:23:51.133+01:00Rhonda: thanks for the kind words. Glad you're...Rhonda: thanks for the kind words. Glad you're enjoying the blog!<br /><br />Susan: hmmmm, if it didn't last long and other sources don't mention it, maybe poor Margaret did just have a rash?Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-71226790591448616972009-09-11T15:46:42.732+01:002009-09-11T15:46:42.732+01:00Thanks, Lady D, for the smallpox info! What got me...Thanks, Lady D, for the smallpox info! What got me interested was a notation in 1445 that Margaret of Anjou was broken out in the pox just before her wedding to Henry VI, but the writer doesn't describe the pox. Smallpox seems unlikely, since she wasn't sick for that long, and the writer seems to have connected the pox with the effects of her seasickness. Maybe the writer in 1445 was simply using "pox" to refer to a rash?Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-81966386936910982352009-09-11T13:42:37.649+01:002009-09-11T13:42:37.649+01:00I'm a big fan of the 13th and 14th centuries a...I'm a big fan of the 13th and 14th centuries and love the topics you research...even the weather. Your posts makes the 'time' come more alive than many of the books I've read.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00241360239352743868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-72098482770284281292009-09-11T09:11:29.177+01:002009-09-11T09:11:29.177+01:00Lady D: yes, of course, I'd forgotten that - t...Lady D: yes, of course, I'd forgotten that - the Bridlington chronicle says that Hugh prostrated himself in the snow before Ed in March 1322. Confirmation of the statement in the Historia Roffensis about all the snow in the early months of that year!<br /><br />Thanks for all the smallpox info - fascinating! I didn't know (or had forgotten) that syphilis was the 'great pox'.Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-58020856998413019792009-09-11T08:59:47.067+01:002009-09-11T08:59:47.067+01:00Absolutely fascinating post. I can't remember ...Absolutely fascinating post. I can't remember the year off hand (haven't had coffee yet), but I think it was 1321 or 1322, when Hugh lay prostrate in the snow in front of Edward to try and stop him unfurling his banners against the rebels? <br /><br />Regarding the smallpox thing - as people who know me, know - I have a rather (un)healthy interest in diseases and such, ancient and modern. Smallpox was certainly around in Edward's time, as the was the milder cowpox. I think the name smallpox is a later one though (even though, at the moment, I can't find the original Medieval name - perhaps because they tended to deal with symptoms then, rather than the disease as an entity). It was so called to distinguish it from Syphilis (the great Pox) which seems to have appeared after 1485 (and yes, I know about all the debates on the origins of syphilis ;-) )<br /><br />But - going back to smallpox. The books I've read have all said that smallpox was not considered to be much of a problem in the Middle Ages (apart from a handful of severe outbreaks). This suggests that actually the mild outbreaks were actually cowpox - which looks similar - and also confers immunity from smallpox itself. However, this does then raise the question of why smallpox became more prevalent and deadly in later centuries. Lots more research need to be done on the social history of these viruses.Jules Frusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207281934232383811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-1041859390993120412009-09-11T07:49:51.385+01:002009-09-11T07:49:51.385+01:00LOL, Christy! :-)LOL, Christy! :-)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-52376590474172725192009-09-11T06:56:55.455+01:002009-09-11T06:56:55.455+01:00Haha! Thanks, Alianore, for the penicillin injecti...Haha! Thanks, Alianore, for the penicillin injection on the smallpox. I was actually casting aspersions on the young men's and maidens' social lives by wondering which sort of rash and fever they were passing around! :DChristy K Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-86495545171916365212009-09-11T06:47:06.846+01:002009-09-11T06:47:06.846+01:00Susan: thanks! We've had a decent summmer too...Susan: thanks! We've had a decent summmer too, unlike the past two years when. it. rained. constantly. Agh.<br /><br />Christy: the translation says 'smallpox' and I don't have the Latin original of the Flores in front of me to check what word was used (I'd have to go to the library), but according to Donald R. Hopkins' Smallpox in History, Gilbertus Anglicus described the causes and varieties of smallpox in a medical treatise of 1240, so the disease was apparently known in England by then. A famous English doctor of the era called John Gaddesden claimed to have cured Edward II's half-brother Thomas of smallpox by hanging red cloth in his room and giving him red liquids to drink.<br /><br />Clement: thanks! I love those yelling demons and the whole mentality that lies behind the explanations of storms, famine etc,Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-2612267721423244882009-09-10T17:47:40.562+01:002009-09-10T17:47:40.562+01:00Recently there was an excellent TV series called &...Recently there was an excellent TV series called 'Inside The Medieval Mind,' the presenter explained that during this period they believed the end of the world was very near.<br /><br /> This might explain their paranoia during heavy 'tropical' storms and its 'howling deamons!'<br /><br />As usual Alianore, you have given us a fantastic insight into Edward's world. Thank you.Clement Glenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14116966238223089211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-2710079706838174782009-09-10T17:01:57.231+01:002009-09-10T17:01:57.231+01:00Hmmm, I noticed that the young men and maidens con...Hmmm, I noticed that the young men and maidens contracted smallpox. Are you sure it wasn't some OTHER pox? <br /><br />Because of the Atlantic's Gulf Stream that can direct hurricanes along its course, I wonder if some of those late-summer and early-autumn storms, especially the howling-demons variety, were tropical storms. <br /><br />Cool post, Alianore. No one ever stops talking about the weather!Christy K Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988458745832012138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-85151368317422360862009-09-10T14:08:22.137+01:002009-09-10T14:08:22.137+01:00Fascinating! (And by the way, you inadvertently an...Fascinating! (And by the way, you inadvertently answered a question I had about whether smallpox was around at the time!)<br /><br />We had a very mild summer here, heat-wise. Obviously we've been good!Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.com