tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post7533816819661264435..comments2024-03-14T05:56:44.390+00:00Comments on Edward II: Crime And Punishment, Medieval StyleKathryn Warnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-60311810502154171262010-06-13T06:40:35.452+01:002010-06-13T06:40:35.452+01:00Thanks, Anerje! It's great to be back.
The or...Thanks, Anerje! It's great to be back.<br /><br />The original text uses the word 'pelote', which as far as I know means ball in the same way that we'd understand it, though unfortunately there's no indication of the size of the ball or what it was made of. Funny, isn't it??Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-17482084793148290032010-06-12T19:02:07.740+01:002010-06-12T19:02:07.740+01:00So glad to have you back blogging! and what an in...So glad to have you back blogging! and what an interesting one to start back with. fascinating stuff. I am also intrigued about this ball after the wedding - was it actually a ball as we know it? or something else?Anerjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305237339979790391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-46093194182831998592010-06-12T12:41:00.060+01:002010-06-12T12:41:00.060+01:00Joanna, that's an interesting comment about to...Joanna, that's an interesting comment about tolerance that I hadn't thought of before - I would have expected, in an age before disinfection and so on, that people would have built up high tolerance, but maybe not!<br /><br />Rachel: haha, doesn't it just! ;) I can just picture that...<br /><br />Trying to hold up a store with a <i>Mars bar</i>??? Oh lordy, the stupidity never stops...!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-84820678930143057132010-06-12T07:17:53.286+01:002010-06-12T07:17:53.286+01:00One other thing ... the vision of Richard chasing ...One other thing ... the vision of Richard chasing Robert with a <i>basin</i> sounds like something out of a slapstick comedy. (It reminded me of that Monty Python sketch re how to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. Actually, a colleague of mine had a case where this drug-addicted drongo tried to hold up a 7-11 store using a Mars bar. Needless to say, the extremely dangerous Mars bar didn't have the desired effect.Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-32091856769334032492010-06-12T07:16:05.344+01:002010-06-12T07:16:05.344+01:00All the opportunities for septic wounds! Whenever ...All the opportunities for septic wounds! Whenever I'm doing farm work (handling dung and animals) with any cuts on my hands, I just hope my immune system has built up a tolerance. Sounds like it didn't work for our ancestors though.Joannahttp://www.seventreesfarm.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-84579577970046835462010-06-10T14:07:21.888+01:002010-06-10T14:07:21.888+01:00Rachel, how very true! Road rage, tragic accident...Rachel, how very true! Road rage, tragic accidents, people getting drunk and falling over - some things never change! There's nothing new under the sun...Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-52432715832173788752010-06-10T02:53:30.573+01:002010-06-10T02:53:30.573+01:00What fascinating info! What really strikes me abo...What fascinating info! What really strikes me about it is - despite societal norms back then being so different from ours - how human beings haven't really changed much at a fundamental level, especially as far as criminality is concerned. Road rage and home invasions were an issue even then! As for the awful fate of poor little Laurencia ... words fail.<br /><br />I giggled at "Ughtred Smith" too. Paul has a fair point about Peter arguably being the only witness to what happened, and therefore we only have his word for it, but I imagine the verdict would be the same now as it was then, even with the benefit of any scientific evidence. Poor Ughtred, either way.Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-11115049846622543022010-06-09T18:53:30.922+01:002010-06-09T18:53:30.922+01:00Thanks, Carla! I had a lovely time.
Haha, yes, th...Thanks, Carla! I had a lovely time.<br /><br />Haha, yes, the chancery rolls and inquisitions would be such a rich source for fiction! ;)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-82756689250789442592010-06-09T16:10:11.561+01:002010-06-09T16:10:11.561+01:00This is fascinating stuff - so many of these could...This is fascinating stuff - so many of these could be the basis for a story. Suspicious or otherwise :-)<br /><br />Welcome back, by the way! I hope you had a good holiday.Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901028520813891575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-77303200775163761302010-06-08T16:15:59.259+01:002010-06-08T16:15:59.259+01:00Thanks, Kate! Glad you liked it. That name is ju...Thanks, Kate! Glad you liked it. That name is just brill, isn't it?? "Hello, I'm Ughtred...Smith." LOL. OK, you've got me giggling myself silly now, too, even though he almost certainly was THE Smith. ;-)Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-9566681159784948782010-06-08T11:27:58.180+01:002010-06-08T11:27:58.180+01:00Wonderful wonderful stuff. Thank you.
I can'...Wonderful wonderful stuff. Thank you.<br /><br />I can't believe that someone with the most splendid name of Ughtred has the surname Smith. Hilarious. Unless he was Ughtred THE Smith which would make my giggling silly. Which it is....so I shall stop now.Kate Plantagenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15241511561334259406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-79882507146989033632010-06-08T09:04:00.423+01:002010-06-08T09:04:00.423+01:00Susan, haha!
LOL, Paul! That hadn't occurred...Susan, haha!<br /><br />LOL, Paul! That hadn't occurred to me - you may well be right. ;)<br /><br />Christy: very true - I've seen numerous cases of people dying a few days or weeks after receiving a wound.<br /><br />Gabriele: yes, it does seem a tad suspicious, doesn't it...? ;)<br /><br />Louis, good point! Reynold must have been so furious to be attacked in his own home!Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-26764641232170952012010-06-08T05:43:01.254+01:002010-06-08T05:43:01.254+01:00Good for Reynold! I have heard that sometimes one ...Good for Reynold! I have heard that sometimes one does not fully realize the pain of a wound, when one is in an excited state, so perhaps this was the case for Reynold. Bien sûr, he felt it after all had calmed down, poor man! At least he took his vengeance on the robber.Louis Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05104477464448107772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-71781128622577723592010-06-07T19:30:42.162+01:002010-06-07T19:30:42.162+01:00They'd have needed a CSI Medieval. Some of tho...They'd have needed a CSI Medieval. Some of those sound very suspicious to me, throwing knives at wives who just happen to enter the room, knife points going through sheaths and whatnot. ;)Gabriele Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205770868139083575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-21313219521693823012010-06-07T17:40:12.340+01:002010-06-07T17:40:12.340+01:00Lots of fatal infections from knife wounds. I supp...Lots of fatal infections from knife wounds. I suppose knives were used for eating, skinning creatures, and DIY projects, all without a disinfectant wash. And hmmm, I wonder if testicular arrow guy lived much longer after his attack.Christyhttp://rootingforancestors.blogspot.comtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-26487715754018172842010-06-07T17:18:58.515+01:002010-06-07T17:18:58.515+01:00Sounds to me like Peter tried to murder Ughtred an...Sounds to me like Peter tried to murder Ughtred and when it didn't go to plan got his friend Dr William the Leech to finish the job. <br /><br />You've only got Peter's word for it that he was so upset - or that Ughtred didn't seem to bothered by the arrow sticking out of his bonce!Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-9685374924824040202010-06-07T16:48:57.340+01:002010-06-07T16:48:57.340+01:00"The Wedding Ball Blues." Sorry, couldn&..."The Wedding Ball Blues." Sorry, couldn't resist.Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-57966595982987851692010-06-07T14:23:45.609+01:002010-06-07T14:23:45.609+01:00Susan, that one's great, isn't it? Wonder ...Susan, that one's great, isn't it? Wonder what on earth people were meant to do with the ball they received!<br /><br />Thanks, Elizabeth! (Also for your great comment on my last post, which unfortunately I never got round to responding to!) Medieval law is a fascinating topic,isn't it - I might have to write more about it in the future...Kathryn Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397714441908100576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-57034340346909246972010-06-07T14:20:09.403+01:002010-06-07T14:20:09.403+01:00Thanks for sharing these - it is such an interesti...Thanks for sharing these - it is such an interesting look into Medieval English law, which unfortunately a lot of students in my country think that after the fall of Rome and before the Renaissance, there was lawlessness and toothless barbarians running amok, so it's great that we have such documented proof to the contrary! Welcome back from your vacation :)Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863958329151143572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19545049.post-47193543295381916292010-06-07T13:57:04.447+01:002010-06-07T13:57:04.447+01:00Love these, especially the "wedding ball"...Love these, especially the "wedding ball"!Susan Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517907583894026599noreply@blogger.com